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I've got a question for all our readers. How do you measure success within a church or ministry?
It seems to me that the more technical and advanced we get, the more every little thing has to be measured because we can. For example, if we are developing a new brand direction for a client, they want to know that brand awareness numbers are being effected positively along with sales.
If we build a new website for a client, they want to know how many people are coming to the site, where people are going on the site and how long they are staying (along with many other metrics).
Do we do the same with church? Do we take attendance to measure how well our church is doing? Do we count the offering/donations to measure how effective our programs are? Do we count how many baptisms we've had to measure God's movement in the church.
People want to know. I want to know. Help me out and share what you are doing in this measurable society.
By the way, I will be measuring the success of this post by how many people respond.
On Friday, April 16, 2010, Brian Klassen said:
On Friday, April 16, 2010, Brian Klassen said:
I have changed my measure of success for this post to the quality of the comments and not the number of respondents (although 3 isn't bad).
Success.
It's obvious to many that measuring isn't the answer to many of life's challenges. The other day I was talking to our team and mentioned to them that our joy must be found in doing what we were created to do . If we honor God in this way, He will bring about the results which are sufficient for that particular scenario. (a true team effort)
Thanks for the comments and keep measuring with God's ruler.
On Thursday, April 15, 2010, Pete Burrill said:
This is a difficult question as I have seen 'wealthy' churches filled with the Spirit of God and I have seen 'poor' churches filled with the Spirit of God. To use money in the bank and programs in the go as your only measurement would give you a false reading. The health of a church has to be gauged by the spiritual health of the people attending and if they are healthy the church, not matter how large, will be healthy.
On Thursday, April 15, 2010, Pete Burrill said:
This is a difficult question as I have seen 'wealthy' churches filled with the Spirit of God and I have seen 'poor' churches filled with the Spirit of God. To use money in the bank and programs in the go as your only measurement would give you a false reading. The health of a church has to be gauged by the spiritual health of the people attending and if they are healthy the church, not matter how large, will be healthy.
On Thursday, April 15, 2010, Todd Giesen said:
"What saith the Scriptures?"
As a Pastor it is hard NOT to quantify success by counting people, property and personal giving (offerings).
However, the call in James 4:7-8 is to draw near to God and walk in holiness. We can have scores of people attend, give and grow to become a mega-church. But if the people are NOT students of the Word of God and obeying it (the Bible) then our ministry is purely cosmetic.
As pastors/teachers are seeing folks developing into committed and growing disciples of Christ? Can it be said of our local churches like the church in Acts 17:6 that they turned the world upside down? If not, our efforts, my efforts are just "smoke and mirrors..."
On Thursday, April 15, 2010, Todd Giesen said:
"What saith the Scriptures?"
As a Pastor it is hard NOT to quantify success by counting people, property and personal giving (offerings).
However, the call in James 4:7-8 is to draw near to God and walk in holiness. We can have scores of people attend, give and grow to become a mega-church. But if the people are NOT students of the Word of God and obeying it (the Bible) then our ministry is purely cosmetic.
As pastors/teachers are seeing folks developing into committed and growing disciples of Christ? Can it be said of our local churches like the church in Acts 17:6 that they turned the world upside down? If not, our efforts, my efforts are just "smoke and mirrors..."
I've got a question for all our readers. How do you measure success within a church or ministry?
It seems to me that the more technical and advanced we get, the more every little thing has to be measured because we can. For example, if we are developing a new brand direction for a client, they want to know that brand awareness numbers are being effected positively along with sales.
If we build a new website for a client, they want to know how many people are coming to the site, where people are going on the site and how long they are staying (along with many other metrics).
Do we do the same with church? Do we take attendance to measure how well our church is doing? Do we count the offering/donations to measure how effective our programs are? Do we count how many baptisms we've had to measure God's movement in the church.
People want to know. I want to know. Help me out and share what you are doing in this measurable society.
By the way, I will be measuring the success of this post by how many people respond.
On Friday, April 16, 2010, Brian Klassen said:
I have changed my measure of success for this post to the quality of the comments and not the number of respondents (although 3 isn't bad).
Success.
It's obvious to many that measuring isn't the answer to many of life's challenges. The other day I was talking to our team and mentioned to them that our joy must be found in doing what we were created to do . If we honor God in this way, He will bring about the results which are sufficient for that particular scenario. (a true team effort)
Thanks for the comments and keep measuring with God's ruler.
On Friday, April 16, 2010, Brian Klassen said:
I have changed my measure of success for this post to the quality of the comments and not the number of respondents (although 3 isn't bad).
Success.
It's obvious to many that measuring isn't the answer to many of life's challenges. The other day I was talking to our team and mentioned to them that our joy must be found in doing what we were created to do . If we honor God in this way, He will bring about the results which are sufficient for that particular scenario. (a true team effort)
Thanks for the comments and keep measuring with God's ruler.
On Thursday, April 15, 2010, Pete Burrill said:
This is a difficult question as I have seen 'wealthy' churches filled with the Spirit of God and I have seen 'poor' churches filled with the Spirit of God. To use money in the bank and programs in the go as your only measurement would give you a false reading. The health of a church has to be gauged by the spiritual health of the people attending and if they are healthy the church, not matter how large, will be healthy.
On Thursday, April 15, 2010, Pete Burrill said:
This is a difficult question as I have seen 'wealthy' churches filled with the Spirit of God and I have seen 'poor' churches filled with the Spirit of God. To use money in the bank and programs in the go as your only measurement would give you a false reading. The health of a church has to be gauged by the spiritual health of the people attending and if they are healthy the church, not matter how large, will be healthy.
On Thursday, April 15, 2010, Todd Giesen said:
"What saith the Scriptures?"
As a Pastor it is hard NOT to quantify success by counting people, property and personal giving (offerings).
However, the call in James 4:7-8 is to draw near to God and walk in holiness. We can have scores of people attend, give and grow to become a mega-church. But if the people are NOT students of the Word of God and obeying it (the Bible) then our ministry is purely cosmetic.
As pastors/teachers are seeing folks developing into committed and growing disciples of Christ? Can it be said of our local churches like the church in Acts 17:6 that they turned the world upside down? If not, our efforts, my efforts are just "smoke and mirrors..."
On Thursday, April 15, 2010, Todd Giesen said:
"What saith the Scriptures?"
As a Pastor it is hard NOT to quantify success by counting people, property and personal giving (offerings).
However, the call in James 4:7-8 is to draw near to God and walk in holiness. We can have scores of people attend, give and grow to become a mega-church. But if the people are NOT students of the Word of God and obeying it (the Bible) then our ministry is purely cosmetic.
As pastors/teachers are seeing folks developing into committed and growing disciples of Christ? Can it be said of our local churches like the church in Acts 17:6 that they turned the world upside down? If not, our efforts, my efforts are just "smoke and mirrors..."
I have changed my measure of success for this post to the quality of the comments and not the number of respondents (although 3 isn't bad).
Success.
It's obvious to many that measuring isn't the answer to many of life's challenges. The other day I was talking to our team and mentioned to them that our joy must be found in doing what we were created to do . If we honor God in this way, He will bring about the results which are sufficient for that particular scenario. (a true team effort)
Thanks for the comments and keep measuring with God's ruler.